Timebar not moving and “Void” Log Issue for Denon Home support

[storaid]

Dear Tiki,

Thank you very much for your continued development of TuneBrowser.

I would like to ask about the current support status of Denon Home Speakers.

In earlier versions of TuneBrowser, I confirmed that playback with Denon Home Speakers worked correctly.

Currently, while playback is still possible, I have noticed that the time bar (progress bar) does not move properly during playback.

I checked the logs and found the following repeated messages:

UPnP_P: [Proc:RelTime ] <POL>: Elapsed: xx:yy:zz -> aa.bb / cc.dd sec (Void)

It keeps returning “Void,” which surprised me.

To verify, I tested with version 5.5.0 and found that the related messages were normal — no repeated “Void” logs appeared.

Have you dropped support for Denon Home in recent versions of TuneBrowser?

Thank you very much for your attention.

Please let me know if you need more information.

[storaid]

Hello Tiki,

As a follow-up to my previous message, I decided to conduct a version-by-version test regarding the Denon Home playback issue.

Here are my findings:

– In version 5.5.0, the timebar function works correctly with Denon Home

– Starting from version 5.6.x, the timebar no longer moves during playback

– In version 5.7.x as well, the timebar still does not operate properly

This result surprised me.

It seems that there might have been a major change in the UPnP functionality starting from version 5.6.x, which could be related to this issue.

I hope this information helps.

Thank you again for your continuous efforts.

[Tiki]

Hello.

UPnP_P: [Proc:RelTime ] <POL>: Elapsed: xx:yy:zz -> aa.bb / cc.dd sec (Void)

Void is judged when aa.bb > cc.dd. Please check these values.

[storaid]

Hi, Tiki

Here is the log

2025/04/28 22:00:03,114: UL02630: T0bdd0: HTTPServer: [10.1.1.144 :50064]: Begin monitoring playback.
2025/04/28 22:00:03,534: UL02735: T0228c: UPnP_P: Notified on GUI: ProxyStream [Normal] SampleRate: 0 BitDepth: 0
2025/04/28 22:00:03,757: UL02737: T06590: UPnP_P: [UPP_WorkerThread]: QuerySOAP: Getting PositionInfo from device.
2025/04/28 22:00:03,757: UL02739: T06590: UPnP_P: [SOAP Request]: SOAP request: [GetPositionInfo ] to: 10.1.1.144 [http://10.1.1.144:60006/upnp/control/renderer_dvc/AVTransport]
2025/04/28 22:00:03,770: UL02741: T06590: UPnP_P: [SOAP Request]: SOAP request: [GetPositionInfo ] finished.
2025/04/28 22:00:03,771: UL02743: T06590: UPnP_P: [UPP_WorkerThread]: QuerySOAP: -> RelTime: 00:00:00
2025/04/28 22:00:03,771: UL02745: T06590: UPnP_P: [Proc:RelTime ] <POL>: Elapsed: 00:00:00 -> 0.0 / 0.0 sec
2025/04/28 22:00:03,771: UL02747: T06590: UPnP_P: [UPP_WorkerThread]: QuerySOAP: -> TrackURI: http://10.1.1.166:29400/TuneID/00013386-RFH-9AA42264.flac
2025/04/28 22:00:03,771: UL02749: T06590: UPnP_P: [UPP_WorkerThread]: QuerySOAP: -> TrackMetaData: <DIDL-Lite xmlns="urn:schemas-upnp-org:metadata-1-0/DIDL-Lite/" xmlns:dc="http:/ (...)
2025/04/28 22:00:03,771: UL02751: T06590: UPnP_P: [Proc:UriAndMeta] <POL>: DIDL/res: [http://10.1.1.166:29400/TuneID/00013386-RFH-9AA42264.flac]
2025/04/28 22:00:03,771: UL02753: T06590: UPnP_P: [Proc:UriAndMeta] <POL>: - protocolInfo:[http-get:*:*:*] bitsPerSample:[24] bitrate:[4610005] size:[0] sampleFrequency:[96000]
2025/04/28 22:00:03,771: UL02755: T06590: UPnP_P: [Proc:UriAndMeta] <POL>: - duration:[00:04:14]
2025/04/28 22:00:03,771: UL02757: T06590: UPnP_P: [Proc:UriAndMeta] <POL>: DIDL/res: [<DIDL-Lite xmlns:upnp="urn:schemas-upnp-org:metadata-1-0/upnp/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:dlna="urn:schemas-dlna-org:metadata-1-0/" xmlns="urn:schemas-upnp-org:metadata-1-0/DIDL-Lite/">
<item>
<res protocolInfo="http-get:*:audio/flac:*" duration="0:04:14.333" bitrate="4615928" bitsPerSample="24" nrAudioChannels="2" sampleFrequency="96000" ProxyStreamT="Normal">http://10.1.1.166:29400/TuneID/00013386-RFH-9AA42264.flac</res>
<dc:title>The Cell</dc:title>
<dc:creator>KOKIA</dc:creator>
<dc:publisher>anco&amp;co.</dc:publisher>
<upnp:album>KOKIA 25th Anniversary Best -The Lighthouse- Vol.1</upnp:album>
<upnp:genre>J-POP</upnp:genre>
<upnp:artist>KOKIA</upnp:artist>
<upnp:artist role="AlbumArtist">KOKIA</upnp:artist>
<upnp:artist role="Composer">KOKIA</upnp:artist>
<upnp:originalTrackNumber>01</upnp:originalTrackNumber>
<upnp:albumArtURI>http://10.1.1.166:29400/Image/14184.38dc30e8-eeba-47d8-8ebf4d56ca061494.jpg</upnp:albumArtURI>
<upnp:class>object.item.audioItem.musicTrack</upnp:class>
</item>
</DIDL-Lite>]
2025/04/28 22:00:03,771: UL02759: T06590: UPnP_P: [Proc:UriAndMeta] <POL>: - protocolInfo:[http-get:*:*:*] size:[0] duration:[00:00:00]
2025/04/28 22:00:04,756: UL02761: T06590: UPnP_P: [UPP_WorkerThread]: QuerySOAP: Getting PositionInfo from device.
2025/04/28 22:00:04,756: UL02763: T06590: UPnP_P: [SOAP Request]: SOAP request: [GetPositionInfo ] to: 10.1.1.144 [http://10.1.1.144:60006/upnp/control/renderer_dvc/AVTransport]
2025/04/28 22:00:04,764: UL02765: T06590: UPnP_P: [SOAP Request]: SOAP request: [GetPositionInfo ] finished.
2025/04/28 22:00:04,765: UL02767: T06590: UPnP_P: [UPP_WorkerThread]: QuerySOAP: -> RelTime: 00:00:01
2025/04/28 22:00:04,765: UL02769: T06590: UPnP_P: [Proc:RelTime ] <POL>: Elapsed: 00:00:01 -> 1.0 / 0.0 sec (Void)
2025/04/28 22:00:04,765: UL02771: T06590: UPnP_P: [UPP_WorkerThread]: QuerySOAP: -> TrackURI: http://10.1.1.166:29400/TuneID/00013386-RFH-9AA42264.flac
2025/04/28 22:00:04,765: UL02773: T06590: UPnP_P: [UPP_WorkerThread]: QuerySOAP: -> TrackMetaData: <DIDL-Lite xmlns="urn:schemas-upnp-org:metadata-1-0/DIDL-Lite/" xmlns:dc="http:/ (...)
2025/04/28 22:00:05,754: UL02866: T06590: UPnP_P: [UPP_WorkerThread]: QuerySOAP: Getting PositionInfo from device.
2025/04/28 22:00:05,755: UL02869: T06590: UPnP_P: [SOAP Request]: SOAP request: [GetPositionInfo ] to: 10.1.1.144 [http://10.1.1.144:60006/upnp/control/renderer_dvc/AVTransport]
2025/04/28 22:00:05,765: UL02871: T06590: UPnP_P: [SOAP Request]: SOAP request: [GetPositionInfo ] finished.
2025/04/28 22:00:05,765: UL02873: T06590: UPnP_P: [UPP_WorkerThread]: QuerySOAP: -> RelTime: 00:00:02
2025/04/28 22:00:05,765: UL02875: T06590: UPnP_P: [Proc:RelTime ] <POL>: Elapsed: 00:00:02 -> 2.0 / 0.0 sec (Void)
2025/04/28 22:00:05,765: UL02877: T06590: UPnP_P: [UPP_WorkerThread]: QuerySOAP: -> TrackURI: http://10.1.1.166:29400/TuneID/00013386-RFH-9AA42264.flac
2025/04/28 22:00:05,765: UL02879: T06590: UPnP_P: [UPP_WorkerThread]: QuerySOAP: -> TrackMetaData: <DIDL-Lite xmlns="urn:schemas-upnp-org:metadata-1-0/DIDL-Lite/" xmlns:dc="http:/ (...)
2025/04/28 22:00:06,753: UL02975: T06590: UPnP_P: [UPP_WorkerThread]: QuerySOAP: Getting PositionInfo from device.
2025/04/28 22:00:06,753: UL02977: T06590: UPnP_P: [SOAP Request]: SOAP request: [GetPositionInfo ] to: 10.1.1.144 [http://10.1.1.144:60006/upnp/control/renderer_dvc/AVTransport]
2025/04/28 22:00:06,763: UL02982: T06590: UPnP_P: [SOAP Request]: SOAP request: [GetPositionInfo ] finished.
2025/04/28 22:00:06,763: UL02984: T06590: UPnP_P: [UPP_WorkerThread]: QuerySOAP: -> RelTime: 00:00:03
2025/04/28 22:00:06,763: UL02986: T06590: UPnP_P: [Proc:RelTime ] <POL>: Elapsed: 00:00:03 -> 3.0 / 0.0 sec (Void)
2025/04/28 22:00:06,763: UL02988: T06590: UPnP_P: [UPP_WorkerThread]: QuerySOAP: -> TrackURI: http://10.1.1.166:29400/TuneID/00013386-RFH-9AA42264.flac
2025/04/28 22:00:06,763: UL02990: T06590: UPnP_P: [UPP_WorkerThread]: QuerySOAP: -> TrackMetaData: <DIDL-Lite xmlns="urn:schemas-upnp-org:metadata-1-0/DIDL-Lite/" xmlns:dc="http:/ (...)
2025/04/28 22:00:07,752: UL03157: T06590: UPnP_P: [UPP_WorkerThread]: Polling SOAP log turns to off.
2025/04/28 22:00:07,762: UL03162: T06590: UPnP_P: [Proc:RelTime ] <POL>: Elapsed: 00:00:04 -> 4.0 / 0.0 sec (Void)
2025/04/28 22:00:08,762: UL03431: T06590: UPnP_P: [Proc:RelTime ] <POL>: Elapsed: 00:00:05 -> 5.0 / 0.0 sec (Void) (per 5 seconds)
2025/04/28 22:00:13,254: UL03433: T079b8: HTTPServer: [10.1.1.144 :50054]: Sent 12582912 bytes.
2025/04/28 22:00:13,760: UL03435: T06590: UPnP_P: [Proc:RelTime ] <POL>: Elapsed: 00:00:10 -> 10.0 / 0.0 sec (Void) (per 5 seconds)
2025/04/28 22:00:18,753: UL03437: T06590: UPnP_P: [Proc:RelTime ] <POL>: Elapsed: 00:00:15 -> 15.0 / 0.0 sec (Void) (per 5 seconds)

[Tiki]

I just commented on this, but I’ll look into it a bit more.

Thansks.

[storaid]

Hello,

Here is the metadata by calling GetPositionInfo

<DIDL-Lite xmlns="urn:schemas-upnp-org:metadata-1-0/DIDL-Lite/"
xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
xmlns:upnp="urn:schemas-upnp-org:metadata-1-0/upnp/">

<item id="1" parentID="1" restricted="1">
<dc:title>The Cell</dc:title>

<res protocolInfo="http-get:*:*:*" size="0" bitrate="4610005" sampleFrequency="96000" bitsPerSample="24" duration="00:04:14">
[audio src="http://10.1.1.166:29400/TuneID/00013386-RFH-9AA42264.flac" /]
</res>

<desc id="audioFormat" nameSpace="urn:schemas-denon-com:metadata/" xmlns:aios="urn:schemas-denon-com:metadata/">
FLAC
</desc>

<res protocolInfo="http-get:*:*:*" size="0" duration="00:00:00">
<DIDL-Lite xmlns:upnp="urn:schemas-upnp-org:metadata-1-0/upnp/"
xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
xmlns:dlna="urn:schemas-dlna-org:metadata-1-0/"
xmlns="urn:schemas-upnp-org:metadata-1-0/DIDL-Lite/">

<item>
<res protocolInfo="http-get:*:audio/flac:*"
duration="0:04:14.333"
bitrate="4615928"
bitsPerSample="24"
nrAudioChannels="2"
sampleFrequency="96000"
ProxyStreamT="Normal">
[audio src="http://10.1.1.166:29400/TuneID/00013386-RFH-9AA42264.flac" /]
</res>

<dc:title>The Cell</dc:title>
<dc:creator>KOKIA</dc:creator>
<dc:publisher>anco&amp;co.</dc:publisher>
<upnp:album>KOKIA 25th Anniversary Best -The Lighthouse- Vol.1</upnp:album>
<upnp:genre>J-POP</upnp:genre>
<upnp:artist>KOKIA</upnp:artist>
<upnp:artist role="AlbumArtist">KOKIA</upnp:artist>
<upnp:artist role="Composer">KOKIA</upnp:artist>
<upnp:originalTrackNumber>01</upnp:originalTrackNumber>
<upnp:albumArtURI>http://10.1.1.166:29400/Image/14184.38dc30e8-eeba-47d8-8ebf4d56ca061494.jpg</upnp:albumArtURI>
<upnp:class>object.item.audioItem.musicTrack</upnp:class>
</item>

</DIDL-Lite>
</res>

<upnp:class>object.item.audioItem.musicTrack</upnp:class>
<dc:creator>KOKIA</dc:creator>
<upnp:genre>J-POP</upnp:genre>
<upnp:artist>KOKIA</upnp:artist>
<upnp:album>KOKIA 25th Anniversary Best -The Lighthouse- Vol.1</upnp:album>
<upnp:albumArtURI>http://10.1.1.166:29400/Image/14184.38dc30e8-eeba-47d8-8ebf4d56ca061494.jpg</upnp:albumArtURI>
</item>

</DIDL-Lite>

[Tiki]

I have analyzed the logs and metadata.

TuneBrowser is using this res info.

<res protocolInfo="http-get:*:*:*" size="0" duration="00:00:00">

Therefore, the duration is considered to be 0 (Void) and the percentage of elapsed time is not displayed.

[storaid]

Hi Tiki,

Thank you for the detailed analysis.

It’s a nested structure..

Would it be possible to adjust TuneBrowser’s behavior to skip <res> entries with protocolInfo=”http-get:*:*:*” and instead try to detect and use a more valid <res> that includes meaningful metadata?

Thanks again!

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